The Elder Scrolls Online – Good MMORPG but bad Elder Scrolls game?

The Elder Scrolls Online(TESO) has been rumoured to exist for a long time at this point, but very little was actually known other than “it will be an MMORPG set in Tamriel/Nirn”. Since Zenimax Online Studios was set up (2007), fans have been waiting for it, or something very similar to be revealed but with scarce info thus far. This week however, came the announcement, announcement trailer and a whole flood of screenshots and info. Game Informer have an article in their current issue with a first look at the game and its features. As I’ve mentioned before, I have been a huge fan of the Elder Scrolls franchise since Morrowind so the announcement was something which piqued my interest straight away. At first there was way too little information to form a valid opinion on what the game would be like, but after reading the Game Informer article and after letting it sink in I have some thoughts on the game. I’m going to break it down by feature and discuss what I think. I’ll more than likely pick the game up on release but I do have some issues with it thus far.

The game will be in third person

This one isn’t a huge shock, and to be honest it doesn’t really bother me all that much. It may take away from the immersion element of an Elder Scrolls title, which is one of the main strengths they have, but at the same time it’s not a huge concession in order to move the game from single player to massively multiplayer. It won’t change a huge amount of the game for me, apart from the fact that I will most likely create a female character because if I have to look at someone’s ass for the majority of my gameplay then… well it’s self explanatory.

The game will have a hotbar to activate skills and will not have real-time combat

The developers explain that this is a technical choice rather than a game design choice, as real-time combat can be frustrating when latency is an issue. That being said, this is a harsh sell to Elder Scrolls fans. One thing I really enjoyed since Morrowind was the progression of combat throughout the Elder Scrolls series. Morrowind’s combat was quite annoying, especially if you had low levelled combat skills since you could “miss” an opponent who was 10cm in front of you. This led to a lot of time early in the game spent swinging your sword like a crazy person and ending up hitting an enemy twice out of three hundred attempts. Oblivion was where the combat got more interesting and started to feel weighty, with no sign of “misses”. Suddenly you had to raise a shield in order to block and your arrows actually traveled somewhat naturally. Skyrim improved the system once again, resulting in a very rewarding and fun combat system which added a great deal to the immersion of the title. Taking away these elements which have become a strong part of the franchise is unfortunate at best and may result in a lot of Elder Scrolls fans being unhappy.

The game will have “levelled” areas like most MMORPGs

This one just hurts. One of the biggest joys of playing an Elder Scrolls game, be it your first time or your fifty first time, is walking out into the world and thinking “I can go wherever I want? Seriously? My god this place is huge.” I talked before, in my post comparing Skyrim and Amalur, about how great that feeling of hugeness is. Having areas in your game that are either inaccessible or impossible to deal with until you reach a certain level is the furthest thing from “Elder Scrolls” I can think of. I’m a fan of linearity done right(the Uncharted series for example) but Elder Scrolls is not and should not be a linear game. This feature in my opinion is one of the toughest for current Elder Scrolls fans to overcome, myself included.

The game will have “hubless” design

The Game Informer article describes this feature as “allows players to enjoy whatever piques their interest as they wander the world, so long as you are appropriately levelled.” As a feature for an MMORPG, this is fantastic. I truly do applaud some of the game design for TESO when compared to other MMORPGs which have been released and will be released that it will have to compete with. They are trying to make a really good MMORPG and to be fair, they have a lot of good designs in place that, if implemented correctly, will pay off big time for them. Unfortunately for us Elder Scrolls fans, once again that last part breaks my heart. “so long as you are appropriately levelled.” Once again this hurts the very nature of what makes Elder Scrolls special.

The game will have kill and collection quests

Maybe it’s just me, but there has got to be a better way to do quests in this day and age. Kill quests are where the player has to “Kill 6 bears and then return to me for a reward.” and collection quests are “Kill 6 bears, don’t forget to loot their pelts, and return to me for a reward”. These quests appear in Skyrim, don’t get me wrong, but I think I have come across 4 in total during my 200 or so hours play time thus far. And in Skyrim they are mini miscellaneous quests you complete without ever intending on doing so. According to Game Informer, in TESO they will be implemented similar to how they are in most MMORPGs. They’ll be the intermediate quests in a larger questline or something similar. I was really hoping this was one of the areas which TESO could excel. Skyrim provides an enormous amount of quests which very rarely result to these MMORPG staples. But I guess this is another concession to making the game massively multiplayer, although one I’m not a fan of.

The game will use “phasing”

This one is tricky and could either be great or terrible, depending on implementation. “Phasing” in an MMORPG means that each player will see a different world, depending on how far into certain questlines they are and can’t interact with players in different “phases” to them. It seems like Zenimax Online have this one covered to me, stating they know the pitfalls associated with this type of feature and are working on ways to avoid them. We’ll have to wait for more info to judge this one fully.

The game will have public dungeons

I think public dungeons are a great idea in theory, but hard to implement. This is the alternative to having “instanced” dungeons, which means when a player or group enters a dungeon, they will be in a different “instance” of that dungeon to other players and groups currently exploring the same content. I think even Zenimax Online aren’t 100% sure how to implement these public dungeons correctly since they’ve said there will also be “instanced” dungeons in the game. Curious, but again until we see how these are implemented, there isn’t much more to say.

The game will not be based on the “holy trinity”

In MMORPGs the “holy trinity” is the three archetypes under which every character class or build falls – Tank, Healer and DPS(Damage per second). Tanks are responsible for taking the most damage and being on the front lines, Healers are responsible for making sure the other characters don’t die and DPS characters are responsible for dealing the most damage to the target. That’s the basic idea of the “holy trinity”. With TESO Zenimax Online intends “for any five reasonably skilled players to be able to form a group capable of clearing most content”. This is an approach which modern MMORPGs are taking, Guild Wars 2 for example, in order to provide a new and fresh experience for their players who are sick of World of Warcraft and its clones. I think this is another great MMORPG feature to have, and one that also helps the Elder Scrolls fans. While we are unlikely to be able to level every skill available in the game to the maximum level as in Skyrim and become some sort of multi-talented divine being able to wield a two handed war hammer as skillfully as we can fling fireballs, the hybrid class mentality behind this is maintained.

The game will not have “aggro”

This feature is one of the more ambitious the title has to offer. The idea is that instead of enemies standing at the other side of a room in a dungeon, doing nothing while you kill their buddies,  that every room should be a self encapsulated encounter. The enemies in a room should react accordingly to your presence, working together in strategic ways so that as you are trying to manage the enemies they are trying to manage you and your group as well. On paper this could very well be the strongest feature of the title. But unfortunately, as of yet, it’s only on paper and is yet to be seen in action. If this works well it could make TESO one of the most engaging and compelling MMORPGs out there, if it doesn’t work well it could make every encounter into a messy nightmare that is completely luck based. Here’s hoping it’s done well though.

The game is class based

Skyrim has a very open ended character system, where you simply use the skills you like in order to improve them. For balancing reasons, this is obviously not an ideal choice for an MMORPG, although could certainly be interesting. I, and I’m sure many other Elder Scrolls fans, would have loved to see this attempted since it is quite a unique system to the Elder Scrolls series and again something we have grown accustomed to. A generic class based system unfortunately leads TESO down the “generic” MMORPG route, which I fear is not a route the Elder Scrolls fans will appreciate.

The game will feature combo abilities

In another move similar to Guild Wars 2, TESO will allow players(and enemies) to combine their abilities in interesting ways. This seems like another great move by Zenimax Online in order to allow TESO to compete with other MMORPGs on the market or soon to be on the market. Little is known yet as to how broad this feature will be, but I certainly relish the idea of enemies using combos on me to provide challenging and varying encounters. Since it has very little downside for Elder Scrolls fans, this feature gets a full thumbs up from me. Although again it leads me to believe that Zenimax Online are developing an Elder Scrolls skinned MMORPG, not an online Elder Scrolls experience.

The game will feature the guilds

The Fighter’s Guild, Mage’s Guild, Thieves Guild and the Dark Brotherhood are all confirmed to have an appearance, and most importantly for the Elder Scrolls fans, the player will be allowed join them all. The way the guilds are being handled however, strays a fair amount from the typical Elder Scrolls experience. In Skyrim, and indeed Oblivion and Morrowind too, the guilds represent additional questlines which in a lot of cases are more intriguing than the main questlines of those games. Each guild has a unique questline which to me has always felt like I was getting to play through multiple stories during my game instead of just one in an “average” game. Instead of this however, it appears that the Fighter’s Guild and the Mage’s Guild at least, are simply factions you can increase your reputation with. The Fighter’s Guild rewards you for destroying Dark Anchors spread throughout the land and the Mage’s Guild for collecting lore books. That, to me, sounds like more kill and collection quests and not extra questlines. The Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood have only been confirmed for the title, but with no details as to how they fit in. My hopes for them are quite low considering the Fighter’s and Mage’s guilds, but I would love to be pleasantly surprised here. If you’re an Elder Scrolls fan looking for an engaging questline out of each guild… you should maybe wait for Skyrim’s sequel instead.


There is some seemingly great PvP content in TESO. The center of the continent of Cyrodiil is a PvP area which each of the three player factions contest over. The three factions, determined by the race of your character, are the Ebonheart Pact(Dunmer, Nords and Argonians), the Aldmeri Dominion(Altmer, Bosmer and Khajiit) and the Daggerfall Covenant(Bretons, Redguard and Orcs). The Imperials, as a race, are antagonists to all and are not playable. So the PvP in TESO is “open world, free-from and faction-versus-faction”. This makes for a very impressive sounding feature whereby each of the three factions fight for locations in Cyrodiil with a dominating faction getting to crown a new Emperor after conquering the Imperial City. Having a three way battle, constantly being waged, supporting up to 100 vs 100 person battles seems like it could be another great feature for an MMORPG. Elder Scrolls fans have no PvP at present so they can’t be disappointed by this really.

End game

The end game is all important in any MMORPG as many fans of these games will tell you the game starts once you reach the level cap. TESO provides heroic(harder) versions of the dungeons you will have come across during your leveling and also high end public dungeons to provide some interesting opportunities for max level players. Naturally the PvP will be the biggest draw at end game, but I’m sure players can continue to find lore books for the Mage’s Guild for hours of… “gameplay”. There isn’t a huge amount of other info about the end game as of yet though.

Other Elder Scrolls touchstones included and not included

Daedric Princes are in, and will be part of the main questline. Crafting, Alchemy and Soul Gems are confirmed but their details are not. Vampires and Werewolves are both confirmed but the player will not be able to become either, resulting in even more disappointment from Elder Scrolls fans. Player houses are also out, which is more understandable but also more of that “Elder Scrolls experience” we are losing with this title. Stealth is confirmed, but no details are available as of yet. TESO will be fully voice acted, which should help Elder Scrolls fans at least remember the good times they’ve had playing Skyrim and Oblivion. But in all seriousness full voice acting is great for immersion. Nothing kills immersion faster than having to read chunks of text every time you get a quest.

Final thoughts

And that’s about the jist of it. Overall I think TESO sounds like a great MMORPG with lots of appeal for MMORPG fans. But as an Elders Scrolls game, I’m less than pleased with it. When the announcement was first made I had visions of this being a more accessible and fantasy themed Eve Online style MMO and I thought I was going to be sucked into an incredible Elder Scrolls experience for the first time with other people. Instead it seems like a fairly generic but modern MMO, set in Tamriel/Nirn without a lot of the “hugeness” I’ve come to expect and love about the Elder Scrolls series. I encourage you all to go read the latest Game Informer issue and make your opinions of The Elder Scrolls Online. And please let me know your own thoughts as either an Elder Scrolls fan or an MMORPG fan.

Eoghan O’Donovan


4 thoughts on “The Elder Scrolls Online – Good MMORPG but bad Elder Scrolls game?

  1. Saw this on reddit. Wanted to comment there, but might as well do it here – as a blogger, I know this what we love. Comments. What I wanted to say is that the phasing thing will be really great. It will make it seem like all the heroes are developing simultanously, and there won’t be any high levels killing newbies for fun.

    • Very true. I really liked as well that Zenimax Online mentioned that you would be able to join a friend who is still on an earlier part of a quest, which in my eyes seems to be the biggest downside to phasing.

      Overall I think they’re doing everything right from an MMORPG standpoint, so fingers crossed it’ll be a great game regardless of how good an Elders Scrolls game it is. =)

      Thanks for the comment! 😉

  2. Has nothing to do with TES besides setting. Sucks. Just your average nothing-special another mmo that will flop soon after release

  3. I’ve played four betas and the game sucked a little more each time I went in. This is not an Elder Scrolls game. I’ll just stick to Skyrim until a real Elder Scrolls game comes out.

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